Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway, LMS & BR

Semi elliptical roof non corridor carriage stock

Diagrams 86, 87, 94 & 98

Outline drawing of a diagram 87 composite lavatory carriage Click here for other outline drawings / images . Click here for other outlines Pricing and availability

Built from 1906, these semi elliptical roof carriages were on their introduction some of the finest around in the country . They were intended to be used for high density services and were designed to use the available loading gauge to the utmost. Indeed the first 69 D86 built were banned from "Scotch lines and MR". Subsequent build had a slightly revised roof form; smaller torpedo vents along the roof centre line, one either side of the gas lamp. Typically they were in sets of three, a lavatory composite or composite flanked by a brake third . In consequence they are often referred as LBL's (Leeds Bradford Liverpool) sets. In the Manchester area four carriage sets were often used with the addition of a full third. Three carriage sets were often strengthened with a fourth carriage immediately behind the engine. The basic design was 54' or 56'0" x 9'0" and a number of derivatives were introduced including variation in bogies which were up rated over the years from the 8' standard type to 8' wide frame bogie and later to 10' wide frame bogie. As built the carriages were gas lit but conversion to electric gathered pace after the Great War. However the work was far from complete by Grouping. Indeed some of these carriages were never converted and were the first to be scrapped in British Rail days. In all some 90 D86s, 10 D87s, 105 D94s and 155 D98s were built mainly at Horwich but some by Metro C&W Co. Some carriages of each diagram were dual fitted for working on Caledonian and North Eastern lines, the numbers are not known but would have been less than corridor stock. Because the carriages were built to the limit of the LYR loading gauge the brake ends tapered in at the van end to enable the guard to see along the train. This feature was characteristic of LYR carriages of the period. These carriages had a long life with many serving until the fifties. In the LMS era many LYR carriages saw service in Scotland perhaps because they were at the limit of the loading gauge for the Caledonian Railway. In addition many finished their working lives in South Wales. We produce the following non-corridor carriages: Diagram 86: 8 compartment composite, 54' Diagram 87: 8 compartment lavatory composite, 56' Diagram 94: 5 compartment brake third, 54' Diagram 98: 9 compartment third, 54' To this wagon click Wizard Models. supplies a wide range of Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway rolling stock components see here for details. Back to top

Fully up dated our model has etched brass sides, ends, underframe and bogies with Bill Bedford design sprung suspension units. The model is fully detailed with white metal castings for the underframe, roof with a choice of wide bearing or the earlier inside bogie components. Compartments are completed using plasticard and plastic seating section. A preformed timber roof and cartridge paper covering are supplied along with solvent resistant glazing. A full set of detailed instructions are supplied along with prototype notes and livery information by Barry C Lane. To download the current Assembly Instructions: Version 2.00 released April 2005, 11 Sides A4 (529Kb Acrobat 3.01 file). To read the instructions you will need Adobe Acrobat reader (v3.01 or better). Click 'Get Acrobat Reader' to get a copy of Acrobat Reader: Note this may involve a long download of between 0.5 Mb & 8 Mb depending on the selected version. Don't understand our terminology? most terms and phrases are explained in our glossary. Items required to complete the model:- Wheels: 14mm diameter steel disc wheels. Paint - we recommend Precision Paint or in some cases Humbrol Acrylic: see Lancashire and Yorkshire carriage stock liveries for product numbers. Transfers - we recommend HMRS transfers: see Lancashire and Yorkshire carriage stock liveries for product numbers. Screw couplings. To this wagon click Wizard Models. Paint, wheels and transfers are available from our sister company Wizard Models. Information on Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway rolling stock components may be found here. Back to top

The Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Society Historical Carriage Drawings Volume 2, LMS and Constituents, D Jenkinson P112-115, Pendragon 1988 The LYR Association, Flyer, Volume 1, Autumn1989 The LYR Association, Flyer, Volume 2, Spring 1990 'The Newcastle Train', Barry C Lane, P4-15, Journal No59, LYRS L&Y passenger stock, R W Rush, Oakwood Press, 1984 An Illustrated History of LMS Coaching stock, R Essery, OPC Information on the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway including suggested reading materials may be found here. A list of railway book sellers may be found here. Back to top

Standard tools & equipment for finishing Etched Brass Models. Click here for details Standard tools & equipment for finishing etched brass models. Click here for details Access to a drawings and photographs (see references above). Back to top

Outlines of other non corridor carriages
Diagram 86: 8 compartment non corridor composite.

Diagram 87: 8 compartment non corridor lavatory composite.


Diagram 94: 5 compartment non corridor brake third.

Diagram 98: 9 compartment non corridor third.

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